tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142199900369238852.post3498115187559314109..comments2024-03-25T05:26:47.764-04:00Comments on The Peerless Power of Comics!: Like Father, Not Like SonComicsfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10064955427593820783noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142199900369238852.post-71966382465829901892014-11-12T05:49:58.811-05:002014-11-12T05:49:58.811-05:00Thanks, Anon, that's good to know! And it doe...Thanks, Anon, that's good to know! And it doesn't seem that anyone will shed a tear over this origin's demise. ;)<br />Comicsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10064955427593820783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142199900369238852.post-89269451350539457562014-11-11T22:49:41.855-05:002014-11-11T22:49:41.855-05:00Actually, this origin was retconned in Captain Ame...Actually, this origin was retconned in Captain America 247, less than 2 years after it came out. The reason was because every other depiction of Captain America's origin, including the start of this arc that you linked to, established that Steve volunteered for the super-soldier formula before Pearl Harbor. So this origin was written off as memory implants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142199900369238852.post-3838835138355356052014-09-27T09:58:42.595-04:002014-09-27T09:58:42.595-04:00As all have noted in one way or another, this orig...As all have noted in one way or another, this origin of Steve Rogers didn't appear to have a lot of thought put into its execution, either in terms of details or the actual story arc. The story initially set in motion by Roy Thomas had a number of writers and contributors trickling down from the one issue he scripted (which only got the ball rolling on its last page)--Don Glut, David Kraft, Steve Gerber, Peter Gillis, and Roger McKenzie, who all presumably were working from (or at least familiar with) Thomas's plot. How tightly structured and detailed that plot was, or how closely this string of other writers adhered to or compared notes on it, is anyone's guess. The general sense seems to be that it was hastily put in place, and wrapped up as time permitted (i.e., while dealing with a number of other plots shuffled in). I'd been wondering why the effort was made to give Rogers a different origin later, and specifically why this one was essentially ignored--my layman's guess is that there might have been too little substance here for Fabian Nicieza's newer series to work with.<br />Comicsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10064955427593820783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142199900369238852.post-22727608182789124862014-09-27T08:39:50.292-04:002014-09-27T08:39:50.292-04:00Not to belabor the point but there's just such...Not to belabor the point but there's just such a bad taste to this examination of Steven Grant Rogers' childhood. To be roughly the age he would be, that 18-19 range, Freshman in college, he would have been born 1922-23ish. His family seems to have been roughly untouched by the Great Depression. I also didn't get a sense that with 15 years in the State Department either they or his dad spent any time abroad. And a civil servant position doesn't quite lead to idyllic homes. <br /><br />Other minor points. Mike has a glove, Walter has a glove, Stevie has NO glove yet Walter gets mad when he chunks Stevie the ball and Stevie misses it!?! He's got no glove, Dude, or does that not matter? Redikalous, just redikalous. <br />Mike slides in safe where exactly? Every home plate I've ever seen has the pointy part towards the catcher, I see nothing that makes me think that's home plate. Again, redikalous.<br /><br />And did I miss a time jump? Mike was at the Naval Academy and then stationed at Pearl Harbor? How long was Steve in college?<br /><br />Last point, this is about the reboot of the reboot. Rogers as the son of Irish immigrants. I don't know many first generation children who don't have at least some accent. Nothing in Steve's portrayal has ever hinted that he has one, Irish or otherwise. And I would defer to Colin on this, but how many Irish carry the last name Rogers? <br /><br />Now, what was that about a catnap? Oh, birdnapper........my bad.<br /><br />The Prowler (son of a daughter of a an immigrant). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142199900369238852.post-53301609093016155932014-09-26T09:36:25.156-04:002014-09-26T09:36:25.156-04:00Still one of the LAMEST origin revisits ever.
And...Still one of the LAMEST origin revisits ever.<br /><br />And small annoyance, but why does Cap launch that big tool with the wide, blunt end first..? Wouldn't it have made more sense for the narrow pole-end to pierce the robot more easier..?<br /><br />I got excited by Sal's welcomed art (I REALLY did..), but the story was laughably insipid and lame.david_bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218727673816200051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4142199900369238852.post-49172399212411854682014-09-26T09:05:09.901-04:002014-09-26T09:05:09.901-04:00I've been waiting with interest for this post ...I've been waiting with interest for this post because I was recently reading that Captain America's parents were Irish immigrants which I didn't remember at all - but I wasn't reading any Marvel comics from 1983-2007 so if that newer version only comes from 1991 then that would explain it. The newer version is clearly an attempt to make him much less privileged but making him the son of poor Irish immigrants who die young is really piling on the misery and pushes things too far in the other direction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com